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		<title>Nikon Z8 HLG / N-Log Stops vs IRE</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2024 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Recently I switched from N-RAW to H.265 / HLG for quicker HDR workflow in Final Cut Pro, basically just drop the clips in a HLG&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Recently I switched from N-RAW to H.265 / HLG for quicker HDR workflow in Final Cut Pro, basically just drop the clips in a HLG timeline and that&#8217;s it, just like the iPhone&#8217;s Dolby Vision (HLG HDR) footage.</p>



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<p>I did some test about IRE vs stops in HLG mode and compared that to the <a href="https://download.nikonimglib.com/archive3/hDCmK00m9JDI03RPruD74xpoU905/N-Log_Specification_(En)01.pdf">theoretical N-Log curve</a>.</p>



<p>Setup: I expouse the 18% midgray to 36% IRE in HLG mode to match that with N-Log. Adjust the exposure time first then aperture, ISO to over and under expose the midgray for IRE readings.</p>



<p>Note: Techincally, you should expose midgray to <strong>38% IRE</strong> in HLG mode (<a href="https://xtremestuff.net/recording-editing-with-hybrid-log-gamma-part-1/">ref</a>), diffuse white will be around <strong>75% IRE</strong>, 75%+ is for specular highlights (0~3 stops over diffuse white).</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Stops vs IRE</h2>



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<p>First of all, we can see that HLG curve is more contrastive than N-Log. Highlights will be clipped after <strong>5 stops over midgray</strong> which I think is OK for a lot of scences. N-Log retains more infornation in the highlights (if not over-exposed) up to 6.3 stops at the cost of noiser shadows. HLG has more detials in the shadow area, <strong>noise floor is about 2%</strong> at ISO 400 (12.5% for N-Log).</p>



<p>Another thing intresting is that the HLG curve is very steep from -1 to +3 stops but quickly saturated afterwards (non-linear anymore), highlights are compressed and will clipped around <strong>96% IRE</strong>, making sure to set the <strong>high zebra to 245</strong> when shooting HLG.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Base ISO for HLG and N-Log</h2>



<p>Nikon Z8&#8217;s HLG has a &#8220;nominal&#8221; base ISO 400. Under the hood, the sensor is working at ISO 100, shadows will be boosted by <strong>2 stops</strong> while highlights will be intact, bascially you are shooting at ISO 100 with 2 stops under to protect highlights.</p>



<p>N-Log has a &#8220;nominal&#8221; base ISO 800. Same as HLG, the sensor is working at ISO 100, shadows will be boosted by <strong>3 stops</strong> while highlights will be intact, bascially you are shooting at ISO 100 with 3 stops under to protect highlights. However, you will see a lot of noise in shadow area due to insufficient light and 1.3 ~ 1.7 stops &#8220;over-exposure&#8221; is usually needed to compensate that to get clean image. </p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Consolution</h2>



<p>HLG has a pretty good balance between highlights and shadows, very user friendly for HDR workflow. Unlike N-Log, there is no need to over-expose (even 1 stop under looks good to me), no camera LUT needed for restoration, zero or minimum color grading needed. Another advantage of HLG over N-Log is monitoring, most of the time you can rely on the screen/viewfinder (with zebra on) to adjust the exposure and only open the waveform if needed. </p>
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		<title>Nikon Z8/Z9 Video Format / Bitrate / Compression ratio &#124; NRAW &#124; ProRes &#124; ProRes RAW &#124; H.265</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2024 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Nikon official site didn&#8217;t provide the birate for ProRes / ProRes RAW, I did some test my self, here&#8217;re the results. I only tested&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/z8/en/video_frame_size_and_rate_options_41.html">Nikon official site</a> didn&#8217;t provide the birate for ProRes / ProRes RAW, I did some test my self, here&#8217;re the results. I only tested fullframe (FX) in ~4K resolution. </p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">ProRes Raw 12Bit</h2>



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 <tr><td>4140 x 2330 60p</td><td>3350</td><td>1.977</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4140 x 2330 50p</td><td>2810</td><td>1.964</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4140 x 2330 30p</td><td>1620</td><td>2.044</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4140 x 2330 25p</td><td>1360</td><td>2.029</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4140 x 2330 24p</td><td>1280</td><td>2.070</td></tr>
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<p>ProRes Raw has a very low compression ratio of 2, which suggests that it might be lossless compressed, which takes more spaces than Nikon&#8217;s lossy N-RAW, 2.5x of the high quality and 4.5x of the normal quality!</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">ProRes HQ 422 10Bit</h2>



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 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 50p</td><td>1500</td><td>5.273</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 30p</td><td>910</td><td>5.215</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 25p</td><td>760</td><td>5.204</td></tr>
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<p>With compression ratio of 5.2, ProRes is still 2x the size of the normal quality n-raw!  Though the former one has 1.5x number of pixels to deal with (YUV422 vs Bayer). </p>



<p>I hope Nikon could provide more options for ProRes via firmware updates. A 10x~12x compression ratio version (ProRes LT 422) will be very useful to balance between quality and disk space.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">H.265 420 10 bit</h2>



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 <tr><td>7680 x 4320 25p</td><td>400</td><td>39.551</td></tr>
 <tr><td>7680 x 4320 24p</td><td>400</td><td>37.969</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 120p</td><td>400</td><td>47.461</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 100p</td><td>400</td><td>39.551</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 60p</td><td>340</td><td>27.918</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 50p</td><td>340</td><td>23.265</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 30p</td><td>190</td><td>24.979</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3840 x 2160 25p</td><td>190</td><td>20.816</td></tr>
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<p>For H.265, there is no option for all-intra, and only in 420. Compression ratio is much higher given long GOP. One thing to note, that bitrate is variable depend on the content, i.e. very dark scene will have a much lower bitrate (&lt;100Mbps for 4K60).</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">NRAW High Quality 12 bit</h2>



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 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 60p</td><td>5780</td><td>4.555</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 50p</td><td>4810</td><td>4.561</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 30p</td><td>2890</td><td>4.555</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 25p</td><td>2410</td><td>4.552</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 24p</td><td>2310</td><td>4.559</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 120p</td><td>3840</td><td>3.428</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 100p</td><td>2900</td><td>3.783</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 60p</td><td>1740</td><td>3.783</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 50p</td><td>1450</td><td>3.783</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 30p</td><td>870</td><td>3.783</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 25p</td><td>730</td><td>3.757</td></tr>
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<p>First of all, given 4.5 compression ratio, NRAW is definitely a lossy codec. Interesting thing is that 8K&#8217;s compression ratio is higher than 4K&#8217;s. 4.5 vs 3.7.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">NRAW Normal Quality 12 bit</h2>



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 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 50p</td><td>2890</td><td>7.591</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 30p</td><td>1740</td><td>7.565</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 25p</td><td>1450</td><td>7.565</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8256 x 4644 24p</td><td>1390</td><td>7.576</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 120p</td><td>1750</td><td>7.522</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 100p</td><td>1460</td><td>7.513</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 60p</td><td>880</td><td>7.479</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 50p</td><td>730</td><td>7.513</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 30p</td><td>440</td><td>7.479</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4128 x 2322 25p</td><td>370</td><td>7.412</td></tr>
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<p>For normal quality, the compression ratio is even higher, reaching 7.5:1 which is not bad for all-intra. </p>
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